ATLC #13 – More on Peel The Orange!


The operating rooms in a trauma centre would be useless without the trauma teams being skilled in PTO. Any major airport would be a daily disaster area if pilots and air traffic controllers were unskilled in PTO. No football team could survive a season without highly developed PTO skills.

In ordinary, everyday life there are probably few occasions where an individual needs to be a skilled PTOer and that is a good thing. However, where one gets into leadership roles in high performance scenarios, emergency or dangerous situations or where timing is critical, or in highly competitive business and other environments that PTO becomes a strategic tool that can give the skilled user and/or team that coveted survival advantage’.

In the last DFQ you were asked to list three benefits that are likely to come from the PTO leadership skill.


Today, I want to discuss the possible disadvantages of “Peel the Orange”. There are, of course, pluses and minuses to everything and PTO is no exception. Often, the greater the upside in a situation the greater the potential downside.

So what are the risks, dangers and potential disadvantages of PTO?

DFQ #13:
List three possible disadvantages of PTO as follows:

1. For the trainee (you) …
2. For the trainer (Michael)…
3. For the class …

319 thoughts on “ATLC #13 – More on Peel The Orange!

  1. 1. For the trainee (you) Acting without understanding
    2. For the trainer (Michael) Directing, not teaching
    3. For the class Nobody is teaching or learning

  2. 3 disdvantages are…

    1. As the trainer they must be able to sell this to the trainee with enthusiasm.
    2. As the trainee, clear instruction and the discipline to do a task repeatedly could be an issue
    3. to a class repetition could become boring and not very stimulating. requires attention and flexibility from all parties.

  3. 1. For the trainee (you) … You lose your Lateral thinking and may miss an opportunity that could have been created/won by doing things another way.
    2. For the trainer (Michael)… Not all people are of the same mentality and may be untrainable or unwilling to engage PTO.
    3. For the class … We may lose what makes your place of work unique and fall in with the levels of other suppliers.

  4. For the trainee flowing instructions without creativity or individuality, being afraid to question the CVS
    For the trainer not seeing others point of view or looking for a BVS
    For the class everyone doing the same thing, the same way forever. Not adaptable to change.

  5. 1. For the trainee (you) … Not challenging the CVS or thinking outside the square
    2. For the trainer (Michael)… Opposes his theory on CVS
    3. For the class …Boredom

  6. 1. For the trainee (you) …not having the opportunity to challenge or think outside the square
    2. For the trainer (Michael)…not being able to see the potential in people, ie natural leaders
    3. For the class …not being able to think for themselves or have the ability to be better through coaching

  7. 1. For the trainee not having the time to think over a situation.

    2. For the trainer not be able to see other views on a situation openly.

    3. For the class not being committed or involved in a topic. Making them lose interest.

  8. not being able to think for yourself

    1 track minded type of thinking.( no room to learn anything else / not being able to see other points of view)

    team normally breaks down once trust is broken.

  9. become subservient,ridgid in thinking
    there is only one way..
    we get stuck in a rut by not employing continuous improvement. we don’t go anywhere.

  10. 1. The trainee loses the ability to be creative
    2. The trainer becomes complacent
    3. The class loses interest, isn’t learning

  11. – trainee gets use too the norm and doesn’t challenge.
    – trainer get stuck in a rut and doesn’t review or adapt.
    – the class grabs no value and begins ticking boxes.

  12. The trainee may do something dangerous or illegal.

    The trainer may not have the student learn anything ( they just do as you say )

    The class may have arguments on which one did it better if a vague measurement outcome is defined

  13. For the trainee (me) to lose the critical faculty to question what I am doing while I am doing it

    For the trainer (Michael) to become used to unquestioning obedience to his instructions

    For the class to be conditioned to obey the instructions without any reservations

  14. 1. For the trainee (you), one of the downsides is that I may see opportunities as well as perils when I do the PTO. There must be a space to innovate.
    2. For the trainer (Michael), one of the downsides is that he does not get critical feedback from the trainee – a feedback which may be useful in the training program.
    3. For the class, one of the downsides is that we may abandon thinking for ourselves.

  15. 1- The trainee probably loses the balance between thinking and taking actions and hence he makes no progress ; no good decisions.

    2- The trainer probably loses interest in adapting his training techniques in real time .

    3- The others probably lose interest , and misunderstand how it properly works.

  16. 1. For the trainee (you) if trust is not well developed and its not a life and death situation then trainee may risk loosing reasoning and questioning coming from curiosity !
    2. For the trainer (Michael ) if no one questions then trainer will not improve , trainee questioning is part of the feedback needed to improve the course , trainer and also trainee’s cognition
    3. For the class overall will have net value of zero and even future classes will not benefit from joint experience of the trainer and trainees !

  17. 1. I might not fully understand the PTO, have the right skills or I might even disagree with it.
    2. You might assume I got it and it will be done according to your standards (which might not have been communicated.)
    3. We might understand the PTO differently based on our experiences and history, or not understand why so many of us have the same PTO or, if they’re different, how they fit together to reach the outcome (we might not even know the outcome.)

  18. For the trainee – absolves themselves from any responsibility, follows blindly with no moral compass

    For the trainer – loses objectivity, not open to refining existing norm

    For the class – lose confidence, hesitate to follow direction

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